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Re: Adcock anlegg / Peilehytter

Posted: 21 Jun 2017 23:37
by Thomas L
And here you can see the Adcock at the eastern end of runway, can't see any remains on the 1946 photos

Re: Adcock anlegg / Peilehytter

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 7:15
by nordfriese
Hi Thomas!

Thanks for your help!

You are right, I can't see anything in the east as well.

"Flusi" is the German abbreviation for "Flugsicherung" (air traffic control).
At some airfields a Adcock-DF belonged to "Flusi"...

After my information, the Luftwaffe at Bodø had three Adcock-DF. One
Shortwave-DF for Horch-Funk (SIGINT), a Shortwave-DF for "Flusi" and
a Longwave-DF also for "Flusi".

Best wishes
Rolf

Re: Adcock anlegg / Peilehytter

Posted: 22 Jun 2017 9:22
by Thomas L
Thanks for the information.
I forgot about the last one, "Flusi Jensvoll".
There are some remains of a hut/small house in the area, maybe for this function.
I will some day go and take a look.

Rgds
Thomas L

Re: Adcock anlegg / Peilehytter

Posted: 23 Jun 2017 9:30
by nordfriese
Hi Thomas!

Very kind of you!

As you can see, the masts of "Flusi 1" are direct next to the hut and
there are six of them.
After the book of Fritz Trenkle "Die deutschen Funkpeil- und Horch-
Verfahren bis 1945", this is a indicator for a shortwave-Adcock of the
"A-70"-series, because only the shortwave-adcocks "A-70 b", "A-70 h"
and "A-70 k" had six masts.
The diagonal base (from mast to mast) of the "A-70 b" was 9,6 m, for
"h" and "k" 7,5 m.
When you take a really close look at the masts at "Norge i Bilder" and
change to the nowadays picture, it seems to me, that the foundation
of the masts are still there. ???

So "Flusi 2" at Jensvold (or is it Jensvoll?) should have been the longwave-
Adcock. All Luftwaffe longwave-Adcocks had just four masts.
The Luftwaffe A-40/A-50/A-60-series for longwave had a base between
14 and 60 m.

Good luck for your search!
Rolf

Re: Adcock anlegg / Peilehytter

Posted: 25 Jun 2017 15:16
by Thomas L
Hei Rolf

Thanks for great information. This is something I don't know so much about.
I can ensure you that there are no remains og the Foundation for "Flusi 1".
The hole area has been turned up side down when the airport was built.
On the picture below you can see four foundation, and that's for runway marking signs.

I'll be back with some information about "Flusi 2" in a few days.
The correct name is "Jensvold" :bra:

Rgds
Thomas L

Re: Adcock anlegg / Peilehytter

Posted: 25 Jun 2017 21:40
by nordfriese
Hi!

It was very nice by the Germans to paint their numbers of "light maschine-guns" onto the
map, which they had to protect their "Flusi-stuff".
West of the airfield there was just one. That's the reason, I called it "Flusi 1". At "Flusi
Jensvold" there were two light MG. This was the reason I called it "Flusi 2".

Just that you don't mix it up... ;)

Best wishes and greetings to Norway
Rolf

Re: Adcock anlegg / Peilehytter

Posted: 29 Jun 2017 11:39
by nordfriese
Hi!

After I read the notes of Erik E and TØ about the DF at Bore/Hodne,
I took a look at this area at Norgeibilder.

A list of Adcocks in Norway says, the Germans had in Bore-area a
Shortwave-DF and a Longwave-DF both for "Flugsicherung" (air
traffic control).

I found the shortwave-DF-hut in Hodne-area quite easy at the pictures
of 1960 (Thank you, TØ, for the information about Hodne!).

North of the position, I found a "antenna" which looks to me like a
longwave-Adcock. The main hut is still there today.
Adcock Bore LW 1960 norgeibilder.jpg
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Adcock Bore LW today.jpg
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Adcock Bore LW-Hut.jpg
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360 m northwest of the "LW-Adcock" was a huge single mast in 1960.
I'm not sure, but as far as I know, there was a DECCA-station in this
area for navigation in post-war-times. I think this mast was the DECCA-
station.
DECCA-purple Bore 1960 norgeibilder.jpg
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My question:
Was the large "four-mast-post" a German-longwave-Adcock, which was used by Norway after the war
or does this post belong to the "DECCA-mast"?

Source of the b/w-pictures: http://www.norgeibilder.no/

Thanks in advice

Best wishes
Rolf
Adcock Bore.jpg
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Re: Adcock anlegg / Peilehytter

Posted: 29 Jun 2017 20:52
by SES
The installation with the four masts certainly looks like a LW-Adcock.
bregds
SES

Re: Adcock anlegg / Peilehytter

Posted: 26 Oct 2017 15:18
by Thomas L
Finally I got the time to visit the area where Flusi Jensvold was located.
Not mutch to find, but there are some remains of a small building and some concrete with a pipe inside.
If this was related to the "Flusi".... I'm not 100% sure..

Thomas L

Re: Adcock anlegg / Peilehytter

Posted: 26 Jan 2018 17:39
by borge.mohus
Tok en tur til Ørland Radio (mottakerstasjonen) på Grande idag.
flyfoto 1969
flyfoto 1969
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flyfoto 2017
flyfoto 2017
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Lokasjonen er det vestligste punktet
Lokasjonen er det vestligste punktet
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Ca 500m VNV for dagens Ørland Radio ser det ut som det sto en installasjon. (flyfoto fra 1969)

Det var først i dag jeg fant fundamentene pga vegetasjon (gress).
På den ene stakk det opp en rest av coax-kabel.
Fundament
Fundament
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Fundament
Fundament
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Det er 4 mastefester som står ca 15 fra hverandre. Hver mast er bardunert på 3 punkt. Festene står der fortsatt.
Jeg fikk ikke lokalisert midtpunktet mellom antennene, men det er i allefall ikke noe som stikker opp der.
Skal sjekke dette nærmere, men må ha med meg noe utstyr for å finne midten.

Jeg har ikke funnet noen andre bilder som kan vise hvordan dett sto før det ble revet.
Børge

Re: Adcock anlegg / Peilehytter

Posted: 23 Jun 2019 12:14
by nordfriese
Hi!
Thomas L wrote:Flusi Jensvold...I'm not 100% sure..
Bodø (3).jpg
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Bodø (4).jpg
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Some new information...

For me, this is definitely a mast-socle of a Adcock-antenna! :bra:
Please see the attached socle-pictures of the remaining socle
of the longwave-A-50/A-60-Adcock-DF at German airfield Leck...
Adcock-antenna-socle Leck - Top.jpg
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Adcock-antenna-socle Leck - Bottom.jpg
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Attached some measurements...
Adcock A50-A60.jpg
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Best wishes
Rolf

Re: Adcock anlegg / Peilehytter

Posted: 23 Jun 2019 17:47
by nordfriese
Hi again!

At https://kart.finn.no I found 2km east of Jessheim a area, which looked like a former Adcock-DF.
(Please use the historic pictures from 1969...)

Does anybody know, if this was a former German one or was it a postwar Norwegian?
Thanks in advice!

Best wishes
Rolf